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White Oleander

Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Astrid...

"Those people are not the enemy, mother.  We are!  You and me!  They don't hurt us; we hurt them!"

23 comments:

  1. For each post, share your thoughts on the character and what you think they demonstrate about femininity, identity, and/or motherhood.
    I think that Astrid is a very dynamic character in the film. Mentally and physically she must battle through many tough time in order to survive whatever environment she is exposed to. Her femininity comes in to play as we see her and Starr's lover begin to have sexual relations with each other. Even though he is much older Astrid does not resist her attraction to him, similar to some modern day girls. Her Identity changes throughout the film due to her mother night being around anymore. Since Ingrid has been in jail Astrid has traveled to many different homes searching for a loving family and what she feels is right. Despite Ingrid's efforts to change Astrid's perspective to her own morals Astrid has grown to realize that it is not all about her mother, her life matters to.

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  2. Astrid seems to change in every home shes in. With her mother, she was just like her mother, wearing flowy clothing, and rejecting all the same things. With Starr, she started wearing what Starr got for her, she got baptized, and she started having sex. In the group home, she got into fights, and cut off her long blonde hair to seem tougher. With Claire, she was finally mothered. She had Claire as a mother figure, she felt love, and she was happy. SHe grew her hair out, started dressing classically, and started living Claire's lifestyle. With Rena, she abandoned her old lives, and adopted a goth look. She started drinking and smoking cigarettes, just like Rena. After she left with Paul, she became her own person. She put her life into her work as an artist, and you can finally see the depth that she had because of all the role models she was given.

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  3. For each post, share your thoughts on the character and what you think they demonstrate about femininity, identity, and/or motherhood.

    Throughout the movie, Astrid grows less and less dependant on others. The movie starts with astrid on her own making the suitcases, and then skips back in time to when she's living peacefully with her mother. They were best friends, but as the movie progresses, they grow further and further apart. Upon the initial separation, she and her mother, although apart, grew closer. They would write letters and stay in touch. After the first failed foster attempt, Astrid started to grow up and mature quickly. Throughout every foster home, she changes identities, and as a result, pulls further away from her mother until by the end, she wants nothing more than to be totally disconnected from her.

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  5. Astrid grows as a person through the film. She has to go through many experiences because of her mother. Astrid over all is a strong character. She learns what it feels like to be loved. Her personality changes throughout this film when she is forced to live with different people. Astrid goes through physical changes when living with them. She starts to realize that her mother doesn't have her best interest at heart. All her life she only knew what her mother taught her. She was forced to learn that everything her mother told her was a lie. She realizes the people around her aren't hurting her, it's her and her mother that are hurting them.

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  6. Astrid grows as a person through the film. She has to go through many experiences because of her mother. Astrid over all is a strong character. She learns what it feels like to be loved. Her personality changes throughout this film when she is forced to live with different people. Astrid goes through physical changes when living with them. She starts to realize that her mother doesn't have her best interest at heart. All her life she only knew what her mother taught her. She was forced to learn that everything her mother told her was a lie. She realizes the people around her aren't hurting her, it's her and her mother that are hurting them.

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  7. Throughout the film Astrid grows as a character. When she is with her mother, she almost worships her. She does everything her mother does and thinks everything her mother does is right. When she is forcefully separated from her mother and put into a foster home she becomes like those mother figures. First, with Starr she dresses like her, wears a cross, and gets baptized. Then with Claire she dresses like her too. With Rena she completely changes her style, hair, and even gets a tattoo. Finally when her mother lets her go and she moves to New York she becomes her own person, makes her own decisions and you finally get to see the "real" Astrid. Although forcefully getting separated from her mother was terrible, starting a new life, and growing into an adult without her was the best thing she could do.

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  8. In the beginning of the film, Astrid is a lost character who doesn’t understand her place in the world. She is constantly questioning her mother, but fails to receive answers. However, I think she began to acknowledge who she was as an individual as she moved from family to family. Astrid, confidently, was able to tell her mom she was done following her advice after she realized that she had been brainwashed from the start. Also, unlike her mom, Astrid cared about others and was able to make true relationships that helped her find her identity throughout the film. Instead of following in her mother’s footsteps, Astrid embraced her femininity and learned how to act in society from each motherly figure she had.

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  9. Astrid was the only person in the movie to change and ultimately become a better person by the end of the movie. During the first few scenes you can see how Astrid is groomed by her mom to be obedient to her and listen to her advice. As the movie progresses Astrid learns how to live on her own and survive the circumstances she’s put in. you can see how barely surviving with Starr to requesting to live with Rena says something about how independent she becomes. Although her manipulative mother has many bad traits about her the one good thing that Astrid inherited was her mother’s strength. This isn’t fully exposed until Astrid’s final confrontation with her mother at the prison. Ultimately, Astrid was searching for her true identity because she didn’t want to be like her mother. I felt she finally was able to come to terms with herself by creating the suitcase art to close a chapter in her life and move on as a new person.

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  10. Astrid is one of the more interesting characters in the movie and I think this comes from her struggle to find her identity throughout the movie. Astrid's struggle to find her identity is due to her constant changing of situations. When Astrid is living with her mother she is taught one thing, but while she lives with Starr, Claire, and Rena she is taught to value other things. This clash of values leads Astrid to go through many phases, such as wearing more dresses and skirts while living with Starr but wearing more goth clothing while living with Rena. The only thing that stays constant throughout her stays is her interest in art. I think this shows how her personality mainly revolves around this interest and why she chose to describe her life using art. Astrid's maturity also grows throughout the film. This is evident with how she is very attached to her mother at the beginning of the film but shows her independence at the end of the movie with how she lives in NY and is able to let her mother go.

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  11. Astrid became so angry at her mother for saying that "those people" are the enemy, because they were the ones to take Astrid in and put clothes on her back and a roof over her head when she had nothing left. Astrid said the both of them are the ones who hurt others because Astrid has always looked up to her mother and wanted to be just like her. Astrid bunches herself with her mother even though she isn't really like her mother at all. She sees herself almost as a reflection of her mother. I think that there is a part of Astrid that believes it is her fault she moves from foster home to foster home. Each household created a different identity for Astrid. She wanted to take her mind off her mother. After Astrid found out everything her mom ever told her, was a lie, and after her mom finally let her go, that's when Astrid actually found herself. She's been searching for her identity for a while, and when she goes to live with Paul in New York, she finds what she's been looking for.

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  12. Astrid became so angry at her mother for saying that "those people" are the enemy, because they were the ones to take Astrid in and put clothes on her back and a roof over her head when she had nothing left. Astrid said the both of them are the ones who hurt others because Astrid has always looked up to her mother and wanted to be just like her. Astrid bunches herself with her mother even though she isn't really like her mother at all. She sees herself almost as a reflection of her mother. I think that there is a part of Astrid that believes it is her fault she moves from foster home to foster home. Each household created a different identity for Astrid. She wanted to take her mind off her mother. After Astrid found out everything her mom ever told her, was a lie, and after her mom finally let her go, that's when Astrid actually found herself. She's been searching for her identity for a while, and when she goes to live with Paul in New York, she finds what she's been looking for.

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  13. Astrid is the one that changes the most throughout the movie. She's discovering herself and what she wants in life. Growing up, she believed in what her mother would tell her but as she moved on to different foster homes she discovers that her mother wasn't trying to protect her instead protect herself. The different mothers, she came across, taught her something new that her real mother couldn't. Starr taught her about religion and trusting someone else instead of relying on her real mother. Claire showed her love and kindness by providing Astrid with a place she could call home. She also demonstrated how sensitive a woman can be and how strong emotions are. The last mother taught her about how selfish a woman can be by thinking about money. These woman all influenced Astrid's personality and beliefs. She found herself and finally become who she wanted to be because she was exposed to other people besides her mother, who kept her locked in. She displays the women through her artworks, each having their own to demonstrate how influential they were to her. She grows as a person and blossoms to a independent individual.

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  14. Astrid is a round character because she develops from a child to an adult during the film. Initially, Astrid is a young girl who listens to her mother and follows her asinine views on independence. However, over the course of the film, Astrid's learns the power of love and rejects her mother’s views. Additionally, Astrid breaks through her mother’s internal wall and makes her remember that life is more than independence. When Ingrid decides not to use Astrid to testify Ingrid overcame her past to build a better future. Astrid takes that as a chance to move on from her past so she can have a better future. When Astrid makes those suitcase art pieces she is reconciling her past and moving into the future.

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  15. Astrid is a very complex character. She was the only one to have changed throughout the movie. She changed and molded herself in each home she was in. Although, she changed one thing stayed constant, her art. She poured everything she was into her work and that was kept her grounded through this rough time in her life. That's why I believe no matter how difficult this journey was for her and everything and everyone she had encountered changed her and her views on life, the passion for art stayed the same. Her art is her identity, not her struggles because what keeps you grounded and true to yourself is what defines you.

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  16. Something that I noticed that seemed extremely important to the storyline was how Astrid’s wardrobe changed with each mother figure she stayed with. With her mother she seemed to dress like a hippie and free-spirited. I think this represented how she was more concerned with doing an act then what the consequences of that act would be. Ingrid was willing to kill a man for rejecting her but didn't realize that her daughter would be taken away and have to live a difficult life in result of that.

    When she was staying with Starr she started wearing less and was a little version of Starr’s stripper self. She wore a cross around her neck and even got baptized. So once she began resembling Starr through dress she started sinning like her as well. She had an affair with Starr’s boyfriend who is also married to someone else.

    Claire brought out the classier side of Astrid. Claire wore mostly neutral colors and a few layers. She was sexy yet elegant. I think this is why Ingrid is so jealous of Claire having her daughter. Claire is teaching Astrid that you don't need to win men over with extraordinary beauty and denial but with grace and class. These are both positive qualities Ingrid doesn't have so she could have never taught Astrid.

    When Astrid stayed with Rena we saw the biggest difference in her appearance. She dyed her hair black, she wore a ton of makeup, and she wore very retro clothes. I think this was showing Astrid finally fitting into her own skin. For years she replicated the wardrobe of her mother figures instead of finding what suited her best. Since Rena was a much more detached mother figure that allowed her to explore who she was, she was able to find what was more suited for her. I don't think this was just an act of rebellion towards her mother for these reasons. But when her mother is taken back by her new appearance because it isn’t what she considered beauty, I think this showed how restraining and controlling she was. Even after we see Astrid figuring out who she wants to be and look like, her mother still disproves. But despite her mothers selfishness, Astrid keeps growing as a person and it took all of these people and lessons to get to where she was in the end. Where she was most happy and at peace with herself.

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  17. Astrid first started off as being a very reserved, innocent, fragile teenager. She was forced to grow up fast after her mother went to jail and learned more and more about herself, her mother and the world through all these different mother figures. Her mother taught her to not fear anything and to not let men dictate how she feels, to be stronger than them. Astrid explores her femininity and sexuality as a woman when she was with Starrs boyfriend. She opens up to anyone who shows her the tiniest bit of attention and anyone who makes her feel safe. In a way she still has that child mindset of needing a mother and yearning for love and attention although she is forced to grow up and is exposed to the harsh reality of the real world.

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  18. Astrid first started off as being a very reserved, innocent, fragile teenager. She was forced to grow up fast after her mother went to jail and learned more and more about herself, her mother and the world through all these different mother figures. Her mother taught her to not fear anything and to not let men dictate how she feels, to be stronger than them. Astrid explores her femininity and sexuality as a woman when she was with Starrs boyfriend. She opens up to anyone who shows her the tiniest bit of attention and anyone who makes her feel safe. In a way she still has that child mindset of needing a mother and yearning for love and attention although she is forced to grow up and is exposed to the harsh reality of the real world.

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  19. In the beginning of the film, Astrid was portrayed as a cautious and reserved child. She worships and idolizes her mother even to the point of thinking whatever her mother does is right. However, she significantly develops her character when she is taken from Ingrid due to Ingrid's murder charges. At first Astrid mimics the style of the foster mothers she stays with throughout her stay through the foster system. For example she changes from dressing with designer clothes when with Claire to dressing in all black and even dying her hair when with Rena. Astrid finally changes when Ingrid lets her go by not having her testify at the trial. Astrid eventually moves to New York with her boyfriend which is when the audience finally get to see her without the morals she obtained from Ingrid.

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  20. In the Movie Astrid is the only character who changed drastically throughout the movie. She became less dependent on everyone else and knew how to live without the love and caring that everyone else usually gets, needs or wants. Astrid was changed by every family she moved in with. Star gave Astrid something to believe in and she took it. Claire gave her the love and affection. Last but not least Marlena showed Astrid the importance of money and how sometimes you need to make sacrifices in order to survive. All these characters shaped Astrid into the woman she eventually became in the end of the movie when Ingrid finally let her go. Ingrid just by giving Astrid her freedom put the cherry on top of all the lessons Astrid learned living with these three other women. another thing that showed Astrid’s change with every family was the clothes she was wearing. It all showed her struggle to adjusting to her new mothers because all three were so different. But Astrid adjusted and adapted throughout the movie.

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  21. Astrid reminds me a bit of Rapunzel in the modern movie Tangled because her beauty is seen as the most important part of her and her mother shelters her. From the start of the movie Astrid is made to look like a very innocent and and quiet young girl. You start to loose that feel after she sleeping with her foster moms boyfriend. Her mother has always taught her that she is the strongest women and that Astrid must be dependent onto her. This causes her to be dependent on the other mother figures that she meets. As time goes on she begins to depend less on them because she sees the imperfect side that her mother never let her see. It gave her more independence then her mother ever did. Astrid is intelligent because she figured out that she didn't really have an identity until she started to loose the one her mother made for her. She's also strong because went from house to house and still didn't give up on herself.

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  22. Astrid reminds me a bit of Rapunzel in the modern movie Tangled because her beauty is seen as the most important part of her and her mother shelters her. From the start of the movie Astrid is made to look like a very innocent and and quiet young girl. You start to loose that feel after she sleeping with her foster moms boyfriend. Her mother has always taught her that she is the strongest women and that Astrid must be dependent onto her. This causes her to be dependent on the other mother figures that she meets. As time goes on she begins to depend less on them because she sees the imperfect side that her mother never let her see. It gave her more independence then her mother ever did. Astrid is intelligent because she figured out that she didn't really have an identity until she started to loose the one her mother made for her. She's also strong because went from house to house and still didn't give up on herself.

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  23. I think in the end Astrid was the strongest one on this movie. In the beginning she relied on ingrid a lot and it was really shown when they took her away. She wasn't always there for her but she was still her mother and she didn't want to lose her. With all the experiences that she went through it made her into a stronger person. I also think that she found herself more and she also taught herself how to be strong and make tough decisions. With each family that she went through she almost had a different personality each time. But in the end she always comes back to what she wanted and begun to learn that what her mother was teaching her were lies. Realizing that the world isn't the enemy, they are and that they hurt people and people don't hurt them. Astrid also taught her mom how to let go and let her be free, she broke ingrid so that she can finally hear the truth. Astrid is very inspiring character to me because she has had a hard past but what ever that she has went through it has made her into a stronger person then what she was before.

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